DIY: Ecuador residency visa in 4 hours or less… for pensioners

This week, I broke my own record.

About 4 hours of pounding the pavement in Manta, Ecuador.

2 permanent residency visas for friends of mine.

And yes, its something easy enough you could actually do it yourself, or maybe with the help of someone that speaks Spanish.

You certainly dont have to pay a lawyer thousands to help with your visa.

Here´s the whole process I did:

1. First, make sure my friends brought down the following documents from the USA, their home country…

– Proof of pension (for the both of them to get the visa at least one of them needs a pension of $900 or higher, for a single person the requirement is min $800)

– Marriage certificate

– Birth certificates (just in case, although lately they are no longer asking for these)

– Criminial record check from where they ve lived the last 5 years (the document itself can be no older than 6 months). When dеаth оr іnjurу оссur, іt іѕ necessary to hіrе a Prоduсt Lіаbіlіtу Attоrnеу. Drug соmраnіеѕ, who nоw аdvеrtіѕе to the masses with mеgа-mіllіоn dollar аdvеrtіѕіng саmраіgnѕ, аttасh lоng lists of potential ѕіdе еffесtѕ аnd роtеntіаl health rіѕkѕ tо their рrоduсtѕ. Sоmеtіmеѕ, thе lіѕtѕ are lоngеr than thе аd сору itself. Whу? Thеу are warning уоu. Wаrnіng bесаuѕе thаt dеѕріtе thе gооd thеіr рrоduсt саn dо, thеу knоw bаd things соuld happen to уоu. Thеу аrе соvеrіng their legal bases аnd trуіng tо рrоtесt thеmѕеlvеѕ frоm lawsuits. In оthеr words, уоu nееd to ѕреаk рrоmрtlу with аn experienced product liability attorneys frоm thе lаw fіrm оf Thon Bесk Vаnnі Cаllаhаn & Pоwеll.

– Certificate from the Ecuador consulate in your home country certifying the source of pension document. ( Certificado determinando la percepción de dicha jubilación, pensión) This is a new one since I helped someone with this last year! 

All the above documents need to be apostilled by the Secetary of State in the State they are issued, and the proof of pension needs to be certified by the nearest Ecuador Consulate before coming.

2. Then, we went straight to the Immigration police (in Manta its the Immigration office on 4 de Noviembre, in Quito its the immigration office across from the Mall El Jardin), to get a document for each showing all their migratory movements in and out of Ecuador called the Certificado de Movimiento Migratorio. (cost $5 each) Elapsed time 20 minutes.
3. Then, we made color copies of the info page of both their passports and of the page showing their latest stamp upon entry to Ecuador.  We also had passport photos taken of each.  And then we printed off the official visa application form found here so each person could fill one in. I also bought a manilla folder to put all their documents.  Elapsed time 15 minutes.

4. Then I translated the documents they brought from the States and went to a local notary next to the Pichincha Bank in the center of Manta where I had to verify my signiture as the document translator and get something called a RECONOCIMIENTO DE FIRMA.  ($20).  Anyone can translate the documents except the interested party.  Elapsed time 1 hour 45 minutes.

5. Then in an internet cafe across the street from the bus terminal in the center of Manta I wrote up in Spanish a simple letter stating to the immigration department what they want to do (retire in Ecuador) and why they want to retire here (I said the weather).  Example of letter here.  Elapsed time 10 minutes.

6. Went with all the documents and my friends who were applying (they have to be present or you need to have a power of attorney document notarized) to the Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores in the center of town in between the boardwalk area (Malecon) and the big Pichincha Bank.  We got a turn and there was no wait and we turned in the folder with all the above. They also had to pay the application fee of $30 each.   Click here for the official list of requirements.  Elapsed time 20 minutes.

What now?

In two weeks they´ll have to go back to that same office once their visas are approved, pay the visa fee to the window ($320 each one time only) and then they will place the visas in the passports and give you 30 days to get a cedula which is your official Ecuadorian ID card (which (as of June 2014) you can not currently do in Manta, only Quito, Guayaquil or Cuenca).

Then they will be permanent Ecuador residents who can stay in country as long as they like.

Not bad for 4 hours.

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Example Ecuador Visa Solicitation Letter

Here´s an example of the official letter immigration in Ecuador asks for when you apply for a visa, just plug in your info and where you are applying and play!
—BEGIN—

2 de junio, 2013.

Manta, Ecuador.

Estimados.

Coordinacion Zonal 4 Manta

Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores y Movimiento Humano.

Por medio del presente, yo, John Doe con número del pasaporte 111111111 de nacionalidad estadounidense solicito que se me conceda visa 9-1 de Pensionista y Visa 9-VI de amparo en mi visa 9-1 a mi conyuge Suzy Q con número del pasaporte 111111222 de nacionalidad estadounidense. Ya que hemos decidido residir tiempo completoen la costa manabita ecuatoriana por cuestiones de clima y salud.

Atentamente,

_______________________

John Doe

Número Pasaporte: XXXXXXXXXX
— END—-

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5 must-have apps before you go to Ecuador

 

Language used to be a barrier when traveling or living abroad in a place like Ecuador.

Not anymore.

Not with todays technology.

Even 2 or 3 years ago had nothing on what we got today.

Here are my favorite 5 apps for your smart-phone that will seriously break any communication barriers you have in foreign countries…

Without you having to study the local language even for a minute!

5. Word Lens.  This is a truly amazing free app you download to your phone and afterward you just hover your phone over text written in a different language, and this app will make the text magically appear in the language of your choice.  And its accurate too!  Amazing.

4. Translator App from Google.  This free app is amazing!  Want to say something in Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese or in one of several dozen other languages supported by this app?  Thought you had to study, and actually learn that sh·t? , take courses?  Hahaha, not anymore man.  All you have to do is say the sentence or words you want to say in English and this app will put your words to text, then translate your words to text in the other language AND then it will say the words you want to say in the other language.  And its amazingly accurate!  You may look wierd talking through your phone to someone but its still cool to hear yourself say anything you want in a language like Arabic or Chinese, let alone an easy one like Spanish.  And yes, you can turn it around and have people speak into your phone in their language and the app can spit out what they´re saying in English too!  Love this one.

3. Busuu.  If you do feel like actually studing a foreign language then the best FREE program Ive found that you can download right to your phone is the Busuu app.  Dozens of colorful interactive courses await you, a great way to kill time while on a plane or bus.

2. OneSpeak.  OneSpeak is an interesting little app that is meant to get you out of a pinch in a foreign country by communicating for the basics by pointing to universally understood pictures.

1. WhatsApp / Viber / Skype apps.  I grouped these together because for most they all do pretty much the same thing.  Once installed on your phone (free) WhatsApp is a free instant messaging service based off your phone number which is quite popular in Ecuador.  Viber is a service you can use to call for free to other Viber members from your phone over the net.  Skype is the old-timer but stil arguably best VoIP service for free internet calling to other members and calls to other numbers outside Skype.

There you go.

Now you can communicate with non-English speakers… today!

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The ONLY type of hotel I’d put in Cuenca

I get it all the time.

People know I’m in the hotel biz…

…and they tell me they have a property and are thinking about putting a hotel in Cuenca.

But truth is, I would NOT put a hotel in Cuenca, except for one type.

You see, Cuenca is already loaded with good hotels, and they’re cheap!

An acceptable option at $10-15 per person per night can be found quite quickly.

The type of hotel I’d put in Cuenca is an apart-hotel.

The difference is the rooms will often be mini-apartments with at least two different ambiances, a living/cooking area and the bedroom.

Unlike normal hotels the rooms have a kitchen or place to cook as most people would get tired of eating in the street for weeks on end.

And they are meant for longer stays.

Usually a few weeks, maybe a few months at a time with of course special weekly and monthly rates.

And they often serve as a “half-way” home for folks who recently arrive in Cuenca and begin the search for their permanent home.

An apart-hotel is a great option for people because agreeing to rent something long-term before they arrive and see it is a big mistake.

Best to look around once here.

And at least initially its nice to take advantage of a few of the services of a hotel like an attentive, knowledgable front desk staff, laundry service and WIFI Internet from day one yet still be able to cook for yourself and enjoy the privacy of your own place as you get your feet wet in a new country.

You could even sell off the individual suites to private owners and continue to manage them and rent them out in a property-manager-type role.

The really neat thing is you could promote it as both a hotel and a condo rental.

There are already a few of these type hotels that exist in Cuenca, but I’ve seen the demand in the area to justify another well-located good one.

More so by far than anywhere else in Ecuador, a lot of expats are moving to Cuenca.

That’s the hospitality niche I’d attack in Cuenca.

Any takers?

You can count me in.

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Sold! Montanita beach house: from $15 to $45k

“There it is.” I said as I signed the sales deed this week.

I sold my 4 bedroom, 3 bath beach house near Montanita for $45k.

The same one I bought entering 2012 for $15k.

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The idea was to rent it as a budget short term rental and keep it as my own weekend getaway when I lived in hot, humid, muggy Guayaquil. and when the room gets really hot many air conditioning services can fix and maintain the device.

After 3 months or so of owning the property someone who had rented the property offered me $40k to buy it.

I mistakingly turned it down.

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In 2012 I kept it rented about 90% of time.

So much so in late 2012 I decided to build two one-bedroom one-bath beach bungalows on the same property. A surveillance security system works a deterrent in a lot of cases. Instead of catching criminals in the act, you actually scare them away see it here. All with a nice oceanview and a 30 minute walk from the center of Montanita.  A pre-fabricated wooden one for a total with furnishings of around $4500, and a brick/bamboo bungalow for around $6500.  They both rented well, the brick/bamboo one more so, for around $230 a month each.

Both were done building in about a month.

Then in early 2013 I decided to put the property for sale for $60k because a friend of mine in the area said the area was hot and that I could get $80k.

I did start to notice the influx of foreigners in my tiny little town next to Montanita (Manglaralto) and the building going on all around me. Bingo, I thought. This is not what you learn about when you are learning how to get your real estate license. Although important, the real learning happens on the street and everyone knows it.

Plus, the towns streets had just been paved.

I chose not to work with any realtors, just post it online myself.

And after a few months I didn’t get any bites, so I decided to take the property off the market as I didn’t really want to sell it at the time anyway.

But after moving to Quito, as my business grew in 2013, I had less and less time to manage the rental from a distance.

The property deteriorated and became harder to rent.

Often 6-8 months would pass between visits from myself.

Then in December of 2013, i decided to repost the property online for sale, this time for $45k.

And within two days I had several interested folks, one foreigner that lived in aother part of Ecuador called so worried I would sell it he gave me a deposit of $250 just to hold it til the weekend so he could make it over to see the place.

I believe the increased interest this time around had to do with both the lesser price and the time of year, right at the beginning of high season on the coast when most other folks take their properties offline.

But when he actually saw the place he wasn’t impressed.

You see, it is an Ecuadorian-made very simple dwelling, needs work, and certainly not up to most Americans standards.

He passed.

But I continued to get a lot of interest and several people a week wrote and visited the property with my caretaker.

In the meantime, I got a few low-ball offers but finally in the third month I had the property for sale (March 2014) I got a call from a real estate agent in Montanita saying he had an interested buyer.

He worked as a buyers agent and was charging the buyer 5% commission but not charging me.

The person from the US visited the property several times over the next few days and made the offer for my full asking price.  I took it, he deposited $1500 as an earnest deposit.

I then went to the coast after he had already left back to the States to sign the deed to close the sale.  His agent took care of the rest and paid the necessary taxes.

The buyer then wired the rest to my account.

The closing took about two weeks.

Done deal.

Besides what i made renting the property, I made roughly $15-16k off the sale.

Not bad, but I could have made more if I wouldn’t have made the following mistakes…

1. Understand properties in Ecuador (a cash economy), especially higher priced ones, usually (but not always) take a long time to sell.

2. I should not have added the bungalows to the property as they didnt do much for the property value.

3. Don’t get emotionally attached to a property, it should always be for sale from the moment you acquire it for the right price.

4. I should have used local real estate agents from the beginning as it pays to have a salesmen showing the house instead of my older caretaker.

5. Don’t try to do too much with a basic coastal-Ecuadorian (boxy) construction, it is what it is, the only way to make it really nice is to level it and start new.

Other interesting things I learned from owning this property…

– A lot of people like sleeping near a tourist hot spot like Montanita but not right in it.

– As mentioned previously, there is A LOT of demand from foreigners for cheaper rentals on the coast as the properties available go from really cheap and generally unacceptable for foreigners to expensive places over $800 a month.

– There is a MUCH higher demand for rentals on the coast of Ecuador in the North American winter months from late December to early April compared to the rent of the year.

– You can charge a lot more than usual during long weekends and holidays in Ecuador if you market to Ecuadorians.

– Ecuadorians look for rentals with caretakers for security, TVs and a 24 hour heating and cooling ,   while foreign renters prefer privacy (no onsite caretaker) and NEED WIFI Internet while a TV and AC are not so important, but the use of other security measures such as outdoor cameras and surveillance from Alarm New England could be essential for the security of these rentals. View your camera system through IOS & Android apps. A web portal is also available for viewing on any computer, view publisher site for more details about Analog cameras, many of which are currently being used in existing surveillance systems, tend to produce very poor quality videos especially if the subject is too far or constantly moving. This makes them slightly less useful when trying to identify incidents, persons, or specific details. Mammoth Security takes advantage of HD Digital Video Cameras that are fast and capable of producing video footages several times clearer than an analog camera’s output. HVAC services Goodlettsville includes a thorough inspection of all parts of your HVAC equipment, with our highly trained team making sure your system is delivering safe and effective air conditioning all year round.

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– It would have paid to have a caretaker that speaks English to help the tenants settle in.

– If possible, it pays to market to foreigners already living somewhere in Ecuador, as most foreigners still in their home countries are generally tire kickers.

– The best way to market your property to Ecuadorians is still the areas Sundaypaper.

So, what’s next?

Another property purchase i’m sure, but probably on the coast of Ecuador as I still think the best deals for flipping are there.

Stay tuned!

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